TLDR:
Bill Clinton’s exclusive CNN interview
Trade regrets and political reflections
Concerns over democracy’s survival
LANSING (The Thursday Times) — In an exclusive interview with CNN, Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States, embarked on a candid and sometimes wistful exploration of American politics, his own legacy, and the fragile state of democracy. Riding through western Michigan in a campaign bus emblazoned with Kamala Harris-Tim Walz signs, Clinton did not shy away from the realities he faced—or helped shape—during his tenure, nor the potential consequences he fears should Donald Trump return to the White House.
Speaking to CNN, Clinton expressed hope in Kamala Harris’ candidacy, convinced that economic policies set by Joe Biden would soon spark significant growth, propelling Harris’ presidency. “I believe the economy will explode over the next few years,” Clinton stated, crediting Biden’s long-term decisions. He outlined his admiration for Harris’ practical solutions, particularly her proposals to curb price gouging and build federal housing—initiatives he admitted were ideas he’d never contemplated.
Reflecting on a divided political landscape
The interview took a sobering turn as Clinton discussed the divisiveness Trump has exacerbated in American society. Comparing the current climate to 1930s Europe grappling with the rise of fascism, he lamented how voters continue to rally behind Trump despite recognising his destructive policies. “A lot of people can’t believe how many voters agree he doesn’t make sense, but they think if it was good for them before, it was magically his doing,” he said. Clinton’s voice, a familiar Southern drawl now marked by age and a persistent rasp, carried the weight of decades of political experience.
This latest campaign effort, in support of Harris, has seen Clinton crisscross Michigan, visiting towns like South Haven and Benton Harbor. His schedule has been punishing, with ten-hour days over nearly three weeks. Yet, his speeches, given without notes, exude energy and humour, even if they also reveal his more reflective side.
Legacy and trade regrets
Discussing his presidency, Clinton candidly addressed his role in the trade policies that reshaped America’s economic landscape. Agreements like NAFTA and China’s accession to the World Trade Organization, he said, fuelled globalisation but also devastated American jobs and wages. “Imagine if we hadn’t signed on or bailed out Mexico when the peso was failing,” Clinton defended, arguing that the fallout would have been catastrophic. Still, he acknowledged the unintended consequences and lamented the failure of companies to deliver promised aid for job transitions, blaming the Republicans who opposed complementary reforms, like health care and retraining programs.
His reflections on trade pivoted to an assessment of Trump’s isolationist policies. Clinton argued that Trump never grasped the intricacies of a global economy. “He literally thought you should be able to win all the time,” Clinton remarked, criticising Trump’s massive tariffs for harming domestic consumers. Yet, Clinton conceded that Trump’s ability to harness public discontent with globalisation showed a shrewd political instinct.
Grappling with race and class
The former president did not hold back when addressing America’s persistent issues with race and social inequality. Drawing on his upbringing in the segregated South, Clinton acknowledged how race relations have long shaped political discourse. “If you grew up like I did, you understood the resentment,” he admitted, but added that honesty is necessary when grappling with what truly drives voter support for figures like Trump. His critique extended to Democrats, cautioning them against neglecting significant voter blocs and instead focusing on unifying the country.
Advice for Kamala Harris and bipartisan governance
In the interview, Clinton praised Harris for signalling a willingness to work across the aisle, especially if she must govern with a Republican Senate. Drawing from his own experience, he advised Harris to develop a more strategic approach to bipartisan deals, one that does not alienate progressive voters. “You need a better strategy than we had,” he admitted, reflecting on past legislative struggles.
Clinton also emphasised the necessity of governing through compromise. He spoke to the inherent tension within the Democratic Party: maintaining progressive ideals while making deals for the common good. His words underscored his conviction that successful governance requires bridging ideological divides.
The unresolved Israeli-Palestinian conflict
One of the most emotionally charged moments of the interview came when Clinton discussed the failed attempt to broker a lasting Israeli-Palestinian peace deal. His voice choked up as he recalled Yasser Arafat’s unfulfilled promises and the lost opportunity for what could have been a defining legacy achievement. The conflict, particularly in light of recent escalations, continues to haunt him. “I can hardly talk about this,” he admitted, visibly moved. Yet, he remained steadfast in his belief that peace must be pursued, urging voters not to let anger at Biden’s administration push them towards Trump.
George W. Bush’s silent stance
Clinton also reflected on the conspicuous absence of George W. Bush in this year’s race. He defended Bush’s decision to abstain from political endorsements, despite the 43rd president’s well-known distaste for Trump. “He’s spoken up more than he gets credit for,” Clinton observed, noting Bush’s advocacy for immigration and efforts to keep the Senate under Republican control. The mutual respect between the former presidents remains strong, Clinton implied, rooted in a shared understanding of the weight of the presidency.
Facing mortality with determination
The interview took on a deeply personal note as Clinton spoke of his age and health. At 78, he has reached an age no man in his family had previously attained, a fact he credits to medical advancements. Reflecting on his mortality, Clinton expressed gratitude for the years he’s lived and a desire to continue contributing meaningfully. “I’d love to live to be 90 or 100,” he said, though he admitted to feeling the physical toll of his long life in public service. Yet, the spark remains. “I’d rather work than play golf,” he quipped, acknowledging the limitations age imposes but demonstrating a continued passion for his work.
Imagining the aftermath of the election
As the campaign bus rolled closer to Battle Creek, Clinton speculated on the election’s aftermath. If Trump wins, he foresees focusing on his foundation and continuing his philanthropic work. If Harris prevails, he stands ready to assist, though he promised to respect the boundaries of presidential leadership. “I’ll never call you,” he joked, referencing his practice of waiting for presidents to reach out, yet he pledged unwavering support should Harris ask for his help.
From his candid reflections to his undying commitment to the Democratic cause, Bill Clinton’s interview with CNN captured a complex portrait of a leader still grappling with his past, deeply invested in the present, and unsure but hopeful about the future of American democracy.